The irony is that the Ukrainians are seriously thinking about evacuating Kharkov, which means that the Russians will have to put up with Gonzalo's critical tongue! By leaving him in Kharkov the West will make the Russians look like the Cavalry riding to the rescue…It would be best to send him to the US or Chile…
This 'he said, she said' business is exhausting. I am going to sit this one out and wait either for GL to be 'freed' and obtain asylum, repatriate to his homeland or turn up in a body bag.
Fair enough. I personally support Gonzalo, believe passionately in FREE SPEECH and don't think one should be arrested, convicted and imprisoned for speaking one's mind but that's just me I guess! One can't fight ALL the battles that need to be fought!
For the record- there are few 'players' in the pundit/'journalist'/expert game that I invest much interest in. Dore (I know, I know) is one of them. So is Rogan, Malone and a number of others. Those who did the shimmy-shimmy can-can for the CovidCon early on will NEVER regain what little trust I had in them to begin with. The defenses for these types are the same ones who cried, "Nobody's perfect!" about traitors like Bernie Sanders and Hitlery Clinton. I hold a grudge.
Remember what Mark Twain said: "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to reform (or pause and reflect)." ;)
There is usually a pattern (e.g. Chomsky) which makes it possible to recognise controlled opposition. The pattern is 99% truth telling & 1% lying (in favour of the government/Deep State). It takes an awful long time to spot controlled opposition! Chomsky, we now know, had an Epstein connection and supports the government position on 9/11, lockdowns etc. Therefore he MUST be controlled opposition. He was most probably directly responsible for the death of Pat Tillman, who most probably made the mistake of trusting him.
Michael, I'm not sure how long it's been since you spotted Gnome Chomsky (Cindy Sheehan's-appointed moniker for the little Zionist grouch) as controlled opposition but many of us had his number ages ago! It has always astounded me that so many Gen Xers and Millennials worshiped at the foot of the old guy. Still many defend him now!
As far as your percentages? 99% truth telling?! Come on man. Seriously? When he refuses to discuss the possibility that 9/11 was an inside job (or anything to do with it), that Israel has the 'right to exist', that the CovidCon was the 'real deal' and those who chafed at being poked with an untested fluid were being anti-democratic and should be 'housed'.
The old guy should have stuck with linguistics.
PS: Where/when did (for example) Julian Assange 99% truth tell and 1% lie in favor of the government/Deep State?
The question which should be asked about each individual is the following (not whether they are a Deep State actor or not, which is a question that cannot be verified): have their actions had concrete (negative) effects? In the case of Chomsky: his actions most probably resulted in the death of Pat Tillman. In the case of Assange: his actions most probably had negative consequences for Rich & Manning. The 1% of the time in the case of Assange is, from what I am told (but can't verify), is that he has lied about spending all his time in the embassy when he didn't (instead he was making a child).
RE: Watch 'Ithaka'. As to Chomsky...he has misled and misinformed a couple of generations of college students. IMO, his 'importance' peaked when he supported VVAW (Vietnam Veterans Against the War). That was 60+ years ago.
A bit of a surprise tho I have not been focused on what he’s been saying lately. Things everywhere have reached a tipping point to almost absolute absurdity.
The point is: whether one loves Gonzalo or hates him (and many feel the latter) one HAS to defend him and his (and EVERYONE'S) right to free speech. Without that: we are ALL lost. Scott Ritter just lost his YouTube channels. His free speech also needs to be defended.
Ukraine is run by nazis. If they wanted Lira dead, he would be dead. Washington could not have cared. The fact that Lira was arrested twice and released twice and not dead raise some suspicions. Ukraine is possibly the most repressive state on the planet, so when he was released the first time and could continue to make videos critical of Kiev for many months, one must ask uncomfortable questions about his involvement with the SBU. When he was arrested and released the second time with his passport, that should have raised even more red flags.
Yes, but there is another possibility: that he was being used as bait to see who else was critical. Apart from which: it is tricky for the authorities to disappear a well-connected, wealthy Chiliean/American for simply posting videos (especially when he had the support of the Chilean embassy). The truth is: we don't know and everything said against him is merely speculation.
Ukraine doesn't depend on Chile for essential military supplies. And Washington will not stop sending aid to Ukraine if Lira was killed. Honestly, he's not that important unless you think his red pill dating teachings are full of wisdom. Ukraine isn't the bastion of freedom and democracy. It's a repressive police state, and SBU has the power of life and death over anyone in their turf. So they're keeping him alive because they're using him to attract more Ukrainian dissents dumb enough to contact him.
Knowing how extremely corrupt the Ukrainians are it is likely that they will try to ransom Gonzalo (after which he'll be deported). The greater the pressure from public opinion the quicker a deal will be made.
Yes, this is what I think is the most plausible explanation. At the same time: if Chile created a stink in South America, which it could, this wouldn't be good for the Ukrainians who recently went to Brazil with their begging bowl.
For a Gonzalo Lira update, go here: https://robertmorningstar.substack.com/p/gonzalo-lira-update-proof-of-his
The irony is that the Ukrainians are seriously thinking about evacuating Kharkov, which means that the Russians will have to put up with Gonzalo's critical tongue! By leaving him in Kharkov the West will make the Russians look like the Cavalry riding to the rescue…It would be best to send him to the US or Chile…
This 'he said, she said' business is exhausting. I am going to sit this one out and wait either for GL to be 'freed' and obtain asylum, repatriate to his homeland or turn up in a body bag.
Fair enough. I personally support Gonzalo, believe passionately in FREE SPEECH and don't think one should be arrested, convicted and imprisoned for speaking one's mind but that's just me I guess! One can't fight ALL the battles that need to be fought!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adxDhyq8pms&ab_channel=TheJimmyDoreShow
For the record- there are few 'players' in the pundit/'journalist'/expert game that I invest much interest in. Dore (I know, I know) is one of them. So is Rogan, Malone and a number of others. Those who did the shimmy-shimmy can-can for the CovidCon early on will NEVER regain what little trust I had in them to begin with. The defenses for these types are the same ones who cried, "Nobody's perfect!" about traitors like Bernie Sanders and Hitlery Clinton. I hold a grudge.
Remember what Mark Twain said: "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to reform (or pause and reflect)." ;)
There is usually a pattern (e.g. Chomsky) which makes it possible to recognise controlled opposition. The pattern is 99% truth telling & 1% lying (in favour of the government/Deep State). It takes an awful long time to spot controlled opposition! Chomsky, we now know, had an Epstein connection and supports the government position on 9/11, lockdowns etc. Therefore he MUST be controlled opposition. He was most probably directly responsible for the death of Pat Tillman, who most probably made the mistake of trusting him.
Michael, I'm not sure how long it's been since you spotted Gnome Chomsky (Cindy Sheehan's-appointed moniker for the little Zionist grouch) as controlled opposition but many of us had his number ages ago! It has always astounded me that so many Gen Xers and Millennials worshiped at the foot of the old guy. Still many defend him now!
As far as your percentages? 99% truth telling?! Come on man. Seriously? When he refuses to discuss the possibility that 9/11 was an inside job (or anything to do with it), that Israel has the 'right to exist', that the CovidCon was the 'real deal' and those who chafed at being poked with an untested fluid were being anti-democratic and should be 'housed'.
The old guy should have stuck with linguistics.
PS: Where/when did (for example) Julian Assange 99% truth tell and 1% lie in favor of the government/Deep State?
The question which should be asked about each individual is the following (not whether they are a Deep State actor or not, which is a question that cannot be verified): have their actions had concrete (negative) effects? In the case of Chomsky: his actions most probably resulted in the death of Pat Tillman. In the case of Assange: his actions most probably had negative consequences for Rich & Manning. The 1% of the time in the case of Assange is, from what I am told (but can't verify), is that he has lied about spending all his time in the embassy when he didn't (instead he was making a child).
RE: Watch 'Ithaka'. As to Chomsky...he has misled and misinformed a couple of generations of college students. IMO, his 'importance' peaked when he supported VVAW (Vietnam Veterans Against the War). That was 60+ years ago.
Looks more like to bury rather than praise, actually.
Why?
A bit of a surprise tho I have not been focused on what he’s been saying lately. Things everywhere have reached a tipping point to almost absolute absurdity.
You proclaimed intent to praise, but following, analyzed critically and net-net, I thought, cast doubts.
The point is: whether one loves Gonzalo or hates him (and many feel the latter) one HAS to defend him and his (and EVERYONE'S) right to free speech. Without that: we are ALL lost. Scott Ritter just lost his YouTube channels. His free speech also needs to be defended.
Ukraine is run by nazis. If they wanted Lira dead, he would be dead. Washington could not have cared. The fact that Lira was arrested twice and released twice and not dead raise some suspicions. Ukraine is possibly the most repressive state on the planet, so when he was released the first time and could continue to make videos critical of Kiev for many months, one must ask uncomfortable questions about his involvement with the SBU. When he was arrested and released the second time with his passport, that should have raised even more red flags.
Yes, but there is another possibility: that he was being used as bait to see who else was critical. Apart from which: it is tricky for the authorities to disappear a well-connected, wealthy Chiliean/American for simply posting videos (especially when he had the support of the Chilean embassy). The truth is: we don't know and everything said against him is merely speculation.
Ukraine doesn't depend on Chile for essential military supplies. And Washington will not stop sending aid to Ukraine if Lira was killed. Honestly, he's not that important unless you think his red pill dating teachings are full of wisdom. Ukraine isn't the bastion of freedom and democracy. It's a repressive police state, and SBU has the power of life and death over anyone in their turf. So they're keeping him alive because they're using him to attract more Ukrainian dissents dumb enough to contact him.
Knowing how extremely corrupt the Ukrainians are it is likely that they will try to ransom Gonzalo (after which he'll be deported). The greater the pressure from public opinion the quicker a deal will be made.
yup, fully agreed!
https://thcsofdaisymoses.substack.com/p/help-and-prayers-fer-good-gonzalo
Yes, this is what I think is the most plausible explanation. At the same time: if Chile created a stink in South America, which it could, this wouldn't be good for the Ukrainians who recently went to Brazil with their begging bowl.
Latin American countries don't care about Ukraine, so killing Lira makes no difference.
Why did Zelensky go to Brazil? Of course they care!